Wednesday, July 11, 2012
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In a word: yes.

My post is spurred by discussions I’ve had around this recent article:

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Bill-Gates-Charlie-Rose-Surface-Windows-8-Microsoft,16190.html#xtor=RSS-998

And my post is motivated by the fact that I’ve had an i5-based Windows 8 tablet for a few months now, and have direct experience with the idea of using a tablet as a desktop/laptop replacement.

First, understand that I have:

  • A tablet with an i5 CPU, a decent GPU, 4 gb RAM, and an SSD
  • A docking station for the tablet with USB and HDMI ports
  • A bluetooth keyboard
  • A bluetooth mouse

On this tablet I have installed:

  • A variety of WinRT/Metro style apps
  • Office 2010
  • Visual Studio 2012
  • Expression Blend
  • Microsoft Lync
  • DropBox and the Win7 SkyDrive client

Second, understand that I also have a high-end desktop (for dev work and gaming), and an i7-based laptop for dev work. The laptop is also running Win8, and the desktop is still Win7.

Third, I’m a big guy. I’m 6’5” tall, with broad shoulders, and big hands. Netbook keyboards are a joke, nearly useless. Normal laptop keyboards cause me great wrist, arm, and shoulder pain. Only Microsoft Natural keyboards allow me to type for any length without discomfort.

Given that background, here’s my normal usage profiles.

My Home Office

I use my desktop for most things, because it is all set up with a Microsoft Natural keyboard and multiple monitors. It is just comfortable, and all my games are installed on this machine, as is VS10 for work on .NET 3.5 stuff.

Also I’m a gamer, and I have a friend who custom-builds my desktop computers. So I always have a top-end dev/gaming rig for a fraction of the cost to get a comparable laptop. And I have yet to see anyone talking about a “gaming capable” tablet – not at the level of gaming oriented tablets or desktops. Were there to be a tablet that could run Battlefield 3 at high res and no lag, AND without me needing a second mortgage on my house, I’d consider getting rid of my desktop.

My Magenic Office

I use my laptop (Win8) for most things, because I have a nice docking station connected to multiple monitors and a Natural keyboard. My laptop also has Office, VS10, and VS12, so I can do whatever work I need, plus it has a variety of WinRT apps that I use on a regular basis (mostly the same apps as on the tablet).

I could use my tablet instead, but the Dell docking station for my laptop is somewhat more convenient than the docking station for the tablet. This is because I carry the tablet’s docking station with me everywhere. If I bought a second docking station to leave in my office then I’d probably just use the tablet instead of the laptop.

On the road

When I’m on the road there’s no access to a Natural keyboard, so I have wrist, arm, and shoulder pain. This is true with my laptop keyboard and the bluetooth tablet keyboard. They are both too small for me, but it isn’t realistic to carry a “real” keyboard around everywhere. So I put up with the pain and minimize the amount of typing work I do while traveling. Tai Chi helps too.

Over the past few months, I have taken to only carrying my tablet while on the road. Because I avoid doing extensive typing on the road, I also avoid doing extensive dev work. As a result, the difference between the i5 tablet and i7 laptop is pretty immaterial, and the tablet is a LOT lighter and easier to carry. It is also a lot more useful on the airplane (remember, I’m a big guy – even first class seats often have too little room to open my big laptop).

In short, while on the road, my tablet has become a complete laptop replacement.

At conferences

The one exception to the tablet replacing my laptop while on the road is when I go to conferences. The problem here isn’t probably what you’d expect: it is a video projection issue.

The tablet has HDMI out, and its docking station has HDMI out. No VGA out at all. I do have an HDMI to VGA converter (from HP) that usually works, but not always. If the sole purpose of my travel is to speak at a conference, you can imagine that it is bad if my computer can’t project onto the screen.

So I lug my laptop around specifically because it has a VGA output jack. Sad but true…

So in summary, once companies and conferences have a reliable way to project HDMI video content onto overhead screens, I’ll have no reason to carry my laptop at all anymore when on the road. And if I bought a second docking station to leave at my Magenic office I wouldn’t need my laptop there either – so I wouldn’t need the laptop at all.

The desktop is harder to give up because I’m a gamer, and there’s nothing on the horizon that would allow me to play my games on an affordable laptop, much less tablet.

Yes, laptops are doomed – tablets will replace them over the next few years – of that I have little doubt.

Desktops aren’t entirely doomed – at least for gamers, CAD users, people doing graphics work, and other scenarios where cost-effective high-end hardware is required. But even today few people have only a desktop. Most people have a desktop and laptop – and in the near future I expect they’ll have a desktop and tablet instead.

For me, I’m happy that my tablet is now my primary work machine. It works great, and meets my needs for everything except high end gaming.

Wednesday, July 11, 2012 12:44:31 PM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
I agree on your outlook Rocky and good post. I enjoy your posts, and since you are never busy or anything (note sarcasm) you should write more often :-P

I also like desktops for their potential to scale/replace hardware internally without having to replace the entire unit every 18 months. My last home built desktop lasted almost 10 years (upgraded CPU 1x), and my new one can just have a new Motherboard and CPU replaced anytime and keep everything else the same. Why buy another case, 1000w power supply, cooling, burner, etc. when all of it is still good? Another + for desktops in my opinion.
Wednesday, July 11, 2012 1:44:44 PM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
@allen, I agree about desktops. My friend Rick builds me one every couple years, and he does two upgrades in between - a CPU upgrade, and a GPU upgrade. Every time he builds one, he selects the motherboard such that the CPU/GPU upgrades are possible in the interim. Very cost-effective way to always have a top-end machine.

(and the old parts recycle to my kid's computers, so they always have pretty darned good computers too, essentially for free)
Wednesday, July 11, 2012 5:52:34 PM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
Do you see a tablet as a replacement if you had to do dev work on the road? I also like the option of gaming on a laptop as well. Not at the setting my desktop can handel, but better than only having touch based games. I'd think the tablet wouldn't be as fast as the laptop or desktop, and compiling isn't getting any faster. What about other stuff like photoshop or finance management software. What are your thoughts there? Do you feel like youve had to give anything up?
Andy
Wednesday, July 11, 2012 6:16:13 PM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
I'm not sure I totally agree about laptops being dead; but I think it depends on what you mean by laptop. One could say the Surface is a laptop with touch capability. At least that's what it looks like one to me when they've got that stand out and the keyboard down.

Maybe I'm unique but I drag my laptop around the house and do dev work in various places, often using RDC into my work PC. Other times I'm doing other heavier duty tasks on it that I need my full-sized keyboard. I just don't see myself doing this on a touch tablet. I put my laptop up on my treadmill stand, bring it into the living room & watch some TV, etc. I obviously can't drag my desktop around the house.

I still think there'll be a place for laptops. Are they getting squeezed into a narrower niche with tablets? No doubt... but they have their place.
Chris
Wednesday, July 11, 2012 7:25:21 PM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
Just curious, Rocky...when the MS Surface tablet comes out, will you be getting one? Or do you think your current tablet is sufficient? Also - if you did get one, would you see any reason to get the WinRT version, or just the Win 8 Pro version? I feel like I'll have to go with Win 8 Pro because I want to take advantage of what you (almost) have...having a tablet serve as a replacement for my laptop.
Tim
Wednesday, July 11, 2012 7:43:57 PM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
This seems a bit misleading. What is now passing as a tablet with surface is more of a hybrid between a tablet and a laptop.
Steve Huff
Thursday, July 12, 2012 6:37:35 AM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
If these tablets can run Visual Studio 2012+ at speed and all the other tools us developers load on, in comfort with a great keyboard then that removes my final need for a desktop PC and probably would not bother with a laptop - unless I wanted to dabble in iOS development (forced to go Apple hardware - would likely get a MacBook and run Windows in emulation).

If I went the tablet route, OK I'll probably need to dock it to get a big monitor/dual monitors and a decent keyboard to make VS development useable, but yes I can see the desktop disappearing for many of us and a tablet working well enough versus a laptop.

My sourcecode, projects and docs would likely be in the cloud somewhere, so storage requirements would not need to be massive.

Now if I could roll up the screen and keyboard, or fold them, I could have a tablet with a 21" screen. No docking required.
Better, maybe one day we won't need the keyboard, we can just think code and it appears in VS2050?


Thursday, July 12, 2012 9:01:29 AM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
I do see the tablet as a replacement for the laptop if I had to work on the road. Either way I'm using a small, painful keyboard. And if I'm working at a client, either way I'd expect them to provide a fixed monitor so I have a decent sized-screen. For that matter, they could provide a Natural keyboard and mouse, and I'm back to having a workable dev environment from my tablet.

Remember, my tablet is an i5 - it is comparable to most people's laptops in terms of performance and capabiltiy. Its limitation (for me) is the lack of a full-size keyboard (laptops have this too), and the lack of a big and/or dual monitor setup (laptops have this too).

Someone asked if Surface will be enough. There I'm a little skeptical, because it is an i3 processor and so has less power than the typical dev laptop. I'm OK with the i5, but I think it would be frustrating to be any slower.
Friday, July 13, 2012 6:45:30 AM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
It's hard to do serious development work on a 10 inch screen. Likewise, I couldn't work for long without a real keyboard. While I could see a tablet replacing my desktop or laptop just on the nature of its specs at some point, what would be the purpose? I still have to plug it into a decent monitor and a keyboard.

For a software developer, I have a hard time seeing the value proposition. I'd rather have a $500 desktop PC that can crush any tablet performance-wise -- and at 1/4 the price, most likely.

I still want a tablet, of course, they're great for traveling and web surfing and things like that. But I'm just not getting why I'd want to shift all my dev work to such a device. I still need to plug in to stuff that's not portable to work effectively. So I'd rather have a low-end tablet that doesn't break the back combined with a reasonably priced PC. Together they still would probably cost a lot less than a tablet that performs at the level I need for development.

All that said, I'm a software developer. I'm not exactly the target audience people care about when they're trying to sell tens of millions of devices. I think most people will be fine with a tablet plugged into a little keyboard for sending email and the mundane things most people use their computers for. But for doing any real work, it's hard to get by for long on a small screen and chiclet keyboard.
Friday, July 13, 2012 6:49:06 AM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
The laptop is not doomed. What is a laptop? It's a PC that is portable. What is a tablet? It's a PC that is portable, but has no keyboard.

I fully expect an increase in "power" tablets (ones that run full desktop operating systems), but laptops aren't going anywhere. And the answer is extremely simple: keyboard.

Sure, you can pack your bluetooth keyboard. But if you do a lot of typing, why carry two things when you can carry one thing?

It's not like the laptop won't also become more portable during this time of rising tablet usage. The laptop will also eventually have touch screen as a standard. Possibly even flip-screen, for a full "tablet mode" experience at all time. Won't it still be a laptop?

I see convergence between tablets and laptops. I think eventually you'll start seeing a device that is essentially the same but made in two forms: one without a keyboard (tablet) and one with a keyboard (laptop). I don't know what they will call them -- tablet with a keyboard, laptop with a tablet mode, or something else. But that's beside the point.

The laptop isn't going anywhere, unless you just mean the name/title of "laptop" itself. It's feasible that might change.
Friday, July 13, 2012 7:31:19 AM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
I see tablets going away. By tablet I mean the iPad, Asus Transformer, and the likes. For me all they are good for are surfing the web. I think a laptop and tablet will eventually merge based on hardware design. For me I want a PC replacement as I don't want to be slowed down by hardware.

Laptops will become more and more capable replacing both tablets and desktop PCs.
James
Friday, July 13, 2012 9:58:53 PM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
Unfortunately this is just another unrealistic set of comments from an individual.
The world is much larger than your obviously narrow one.

There are many people like you out there who come up with similar selfish predictions.
You have one chance of being right but also an equal chance of being wrong.
Allen Withey
Sunday, July 15, 2012 6:21:12 AM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
"For me all they are good for are surfing the web."

Thing is though, this is all that a lot of users really want to do. Tablets are incredibly good for this sort of casual computing, which is why I see hardware needs splitting into two very distinct groups over the next few years.

That being said, laptops aren't going anywhere; too many users need the larger screen and keyboard, to say nothing of relative hardware performance. What tablets probably will see the end of are those crappy $400 "entertainment notebooks" that don't really do anything, and possibly Ultrabooks. Netbooks might stick around for the coffee-shop blogging crowd, or they might not.
Bogus
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